Looking for a dozer and operator in California

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    • #30223
      Little_Grizzly
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        Hi everyone.  I've got a back country cabin out here in the bay area of California.  VERY back country.  All the rains this last winter have really caused havoc with the dirt roads.  (using the term “roads” is being generous). 

        I'm looking for a dozer and operator in the greater-than D6 category.  Mostly clearing old roads of landslides but I also would like to cut about a half-mile of new road.  So I'm looking for not just an operator but someone who knows a bit about cutting new road.  A D6 would do it but will take us twice as long.  A D8 would be better.

        A “neighbor” also needs some work done as well so once we pay the travel fees there will be other work to do as well.

        If any of you out there have suggestions where I should be looking for this let me know.  You can't exactly flip open the yellow pages for this kind of thing.  At least not around here.

        We're looking to get this done this spring so…..I'm hopeful we can find someone soon.

      • #31734
        Bob Rooks
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          Hey Grizz,

          Give these folks a shout. There might be a guy standing around wanting to make some coffee money. Great folks. Used to work out of the hall up here. The operators are all over the place, not just in Alameda.

          Local 003 (HP)
          1620 South Loop Road
          Alameda, California 94502
          Office Phone: (510) 748-7425
          Website: http://www.oe3.org/

          I was born and raised in the Bay Area and know there used to be literally hundreds of excavation contractors down there. I just did a quick search and dug up a few:

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        • #31735
          pepage
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            Do not forget the folks that do logging roads.

          • #31736
            Little_Grizzly
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              I knew this would be a good place to ask.  Thanks Bob. pepage, have any idea where I could find a logging road person?  I was going to make a call to the CDF (California Department of Forestry). I thought I'd post a picture of what I mean by the “roads”.  This is a picture during our fire in 2007.  The road actually looks pretty good here but this piece is STEEP.

            • #31737
              Bob Rooks
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                Timber & forest product companies usually build their own roads. Weyerhauser, Boise-Cascade, Pope & Talbot, etc. have dozers, earthmovers, u-name it.

                That road looks pretty nice, maybe just needs some touch-up? I can see the STEEP!

                That looks like the Los Gatos area, or maybe Santa Cruz?

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              • #31739
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                  I am thinking of smaller logging operations maybe in the area of your roads. Perhaps a call to Big Creek Lumber on Hwy 1 could give you more information.  Phil

                • #31741
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                    I had a new road put in on the side of a steep hill many years ago. The man who did it had experience building logging roads and his tractor was a steel track Case with 4in1 bucket (not that big). Watching him work  made me realize that knowledge and experience is everything. He was fast and if he needed to adjust his angle he could sling dirt like I have never seen. My opinion… bigger is not always better.

                  • #31767
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                      @Bob: That picture is taken standing on the very edge of the northern property line of Henry Coe State Park.  It looks nice because of my constant maintainance with picks and shovels.  This is why I NEED a little Yukkai dozer.  The job is small if you keep up with it every year.  It's gotten way out of control and now beyond the reach of a little dozer (well unless you have a lot of time on your hands).

                      @ pepage:  I completely agree with you.  I've watched several dozer operators work back there.  The roads that were built by someone who knows what they are doing are the easiest to maintain.  They build in little swails and such so the water never builds massive ruts.  Also they guys who know what they are doing seem to take a whole lot less time doing it.  I would take an experienced operator with any equipment over an idiot on a big machine.

                      That picture is of a crazy steep road built by a guy trying to “save us money”.  He took the most direct route straight down hill.  I personally don't think he saved us anything.  I have twelve ditches and four culverts in that road to control run-off.  They are maintained with pick and shovel twice a year.  I would have paid more for a better road believe me!

                    • #31860
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                        Just FYI.  (I hate threads that have no conclusion.) 

                         

                        I found a guy to do the work by calling Henry Coe Park.  I asked them who their “go-to guy” was when the state had some maintenance to do.  He didn't hesitate for one second to recommend this guy.  He has done a bunch of work on the roads back there for years.  Some of the other “neighbors” have used him as well.

                        For reference: Junior Moretti of Robinson & Moretti.

                         

                        I'll post pictures and maybe a vid or two for those of you like me who never get tired of watching big machines push dirt around.  wink

                         

                        Griz

                      • #31861
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                          Hey, thanks for giving us the “conclusion” to this thread, Griz.  Those open-ended ones drive me bats.

                          By all means give us some pics or video when you get the job done! 

                        • #31862
                          Bob Rooks
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                            Glad you found someone. I assume those guys probably contract with the state too.

                            Pics and videos are always welcome and appreciated.

                            Closure is good. winklaugh

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                          • #32509
                            Little_Grizzly
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                              ok…well I thought I would conclude this thread with a long series of pictures and maybe a video if I can figure it out. 

                              All this week we will be working on grading our “driveway” (about 2.5 miles) and adding a little bit of new road (~0.5 mile).

                              First step is accomplished.. got the D6 in to the start.  The driver already impressed me by getting the dozer in ahead of a small storm that happened here in June!  He thought he should run it in ahead of the storm so he didn't damage the state road through the park too bad.  Good thing.  Turned out we got almost and inch of rain!  In June!

                              He did some minor grading to the state road on the way in and I like what he did.  Good sign.

                              Here is a pic of the dozer with me (one the left) and my dad (90 years old this Feb!) on the right.

                              I will update this thread daily as we progress.  There is much to do.  Not sure if anyone really cares but hey….it's got pictures of big machinery! cool

                            • #32513
                              Bob Rooks
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                                You guys look great! Your Dad is a testament to clean living. hailking

                                The D6 is a very popular “all-around” sized dozer. Very capable. I've never had the opportunity to operate a hy-track machines and have heard very few complaints.

                                Please don't compare the Yuchai to it in any way, except maybe the color (mine came in “Old Cat Yellow”).

                                No doubt you've seen this before. Good operating techniques, and some excellent bench work.:

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                              • #32515
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                                  I can watch that kind of work all day…it's just the pleasure of seeing the final result of the work being done and how it is being accomplished that intrigues me the most.

                                  Keep us updated Griz as I'm surely interested in seeing the progress of the work being done on your road project.

                                • #32544
                                  Little_Grizzly
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                                    Ok, an update and a few pics.  I will post a couple of highlight videos as soon as: a) I figure out how to edit and b) how to post to YouTube and c) how the heck to embed the video here.  readin

                                    First I want to say that Robinson and Morretti have been fantastic.  These guys really know what they are doing and have left us with a very good road so far.  I knew this was going to work out when we met them on a very narrow portion of the road and none of us could backup or get around.  He said, “hang on a sec….I make a spot.” roflmao

                                    First pic.  We've been driving in and out everyday.  It's nine miles of off road to get to the “job site”.  Here is a pic of my morning commute:

                                    Morning Commute

                                    This is a view of our property.  Pretty much everything you see in this picture and a little more off to the right.  Two things are often said of our little homestead:  “It's all flat…just straight up and down” and “God had some rocks left over after making the earth.  He put 'em here.”  The road we are improving comes right down the back-bone of the middle ridge in the photo.

                                    The Homestead

                                    This picture just gives you an idea of what I mean when I say 'steep'.  You can see the quality of the road he is leaving behind in the very bottom right hand corner of this image.

                                    Straight Up

                                    And this last pic shows the dozer starting down.  He's clearing a little spot for a turn-out.  We put in a switch-back when ever possible.  Sadly it often wasn't possible.  You can see bits and pieces of the old road going down the ridge.  This part is all done now.  We need another day or so to finish the bottom end of this where it gets really steep.  We all had some good ideas.  We'll just have to see which ones work out.

                                    On the way down

                                    Videos to follow later.  I got some nice high-def shots of the D6 at work.

                                  • #32545
                                    Bert
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                                      Wow! That is one beautiful view of the landscape! I can take a commute like that everyday and never get tired of it. Can't wait to see the videos!

                                    • #32546
                                      Tinbender
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                                        I was raised in Oakland. Dang, my commute never looked like that! Nice Placehailkinghailkinghailking

                                      • #32549
                                        RichWaugh
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                                          Great looking piece of land!  I'm looking forward to the rest of the pics.

                                          Dandy video, Bob.  That guy looked to be a first-rate cat skinner.  The good ones make it look so smooth and easy you'd think anyone could do it.  Not.

                                        • #32550
                                          Bob Rooks
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                                            That's some awesome property Grizz hailking.

                                            Some of those roads look like old fire trails wink.

                                            I'm really looking forward to seeing your videos hailking.

                                            If you'll be maintaining those roads with the Yuchai, I suggest you mount a couple of “jerry cans” to the rear of the saddlebags. I was looking to do that with mine to pack some extra fuel around, they will fit perfectly.

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                                          • #32551
                                            Little_Grizzly
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                                              Thanks for all the compliments guys.  It's been our slave labor camp er…I mean vacation cabin ever since my dad's uncle homesteaded it back in the 20's.


                                              @Bob
                                              : yeah some of those roads are old fire trails.  It doesn't look like it now but everything in those pictures burned back in Sept. 2007.  Here is what those same hills looked like then:

                                              Lick Fire

                                              Well, I'm off to go do the last bit of road work.  Should be able to get great video of some side-hill work and of him pushing some mighty big rocks.

                                            • #32570
                                              Little_Grizzly
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                                                Ok, here is my very first attempt at video editing / YouTube posting / embedding video here…etc.  I will post the rest if this works out.  I want to get more explicit permission from the dozer driver first though.  He said “ok” but I want to ask again just to make sure.

                                                About this clip:  Just a quick clip to make sure things are working.  It was one of the many “pucker factor” moments we had this week.  I told him this moment made me nervous and he just laughed.  This guy had some serious skills and I'm really happy with the quality of the road he left us with. hailkinghailkinghailking

                                                ok…can't figure it out after 30 minutes of tinkering.  It will have to wait.

                                                Bob, you seem to be able to do it.  How to you embed a YouTube vid?

                                              • #32572
                                                Bert
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                                                  Just copy and paste the youtube video link.

                                                • #32573
                                                  Little_Grizzly
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                                                    http://youtu.be/6HakTm71MrE

                                                    yes but that doesn't embed it like I've seen Bob do.

                                                  • #32574
                                                    Little_Grizzly
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                                                      I'll try one more time:

                                                      Hmm.. doesn't seem to work for me.  anyone else see the video above?

                                                      Clicked on share on Youtube (basically just gives you the link)

                                                      http://youtu.be/6HakTm71MrE?hd=1

                                                      then clicked on the filmstrip here and pasted the link there.  All I see is a box with a letter F in a circle.

                                                    • #32575
                                                      Little_Grizzly
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                                                        ….and yeah Bert it was tough to watch for me.  Especially when he started sliding sideways.  I did learn a huge amount by watching him though.  Some of his techniques confused me at first.  After watching him do the same things over and over I slowly realized the reasoning.  If I get his permission I'll show some clips of what I mean.  Maybe when I get my Yuchai I can try them for myself.  (on a much smaller scale! roflmao)

                                                      • #32576
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                                                          Loved the video!  Thanks for posting.

                                                          If only I could get that dozer to do some clearing on my ATT DSL. Speed test shows 344 kiloBITS/s download but download speed of videos is more like dialup.

                                                          Phil

                                                        • #32577
                                                          Little_Grizzly
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                                                            roflmao

                                                            Yeah the video is in full Hi-Def.  You can lower the resolution on the player to speed the download a bit.

                                                          • #32578
                                                            Bob Rooks
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                                                              Grizz,

                                                              Copy and paste the URL into “File/URL” then click the window to preview (optional), then click “Insert”, then click “Post New Reply”. Easy after you've done it a few times.

                                                              Those were some nice action shots of the D6. Remember that the cg of the dozer is low and approximately at the center of the swing frames. He's a good cat skinner, and really knows his machine well. No doubt he was laughing as you puckered. roflmao

                                                               

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                                                            • #32579
                                                              Little_Grizzly
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                                                                Ah HA there is one more detail.  When I click on “Share” to get the link I have to click on “options” then check the box labeled “long link”.  THEN and only then does it work.

                                                              • #32580
                                                                Bob Rooks
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                                                                  I just copy the URL from the address bar. Oh well, at least you got it working laugh

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