TS 254C PTO question

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    • March 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm #30742
      Anthony Staples
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        I just purchased a used (obviously) 2003 TS254C tractor

        PTO engagement lever(?) on my TS254C is on left side of tractor under the seat.  Pull knob allows movement. The lever has three(3) positions.  

        Center, obviously is neutral, or OFF or whatever.  the PTO does not turn.  

        Pushing lever toward the back of seat placing the pin in the forward position OR toward the front of the seat placing the pin in the rear position engages the PTO.  

        I understand this indicates two speeds.  

        Which position will give me the correct speed for my 5' rotary cutter? 

        Edit:  King Kutter 5' rotary cutter, w/ 40hp gearbox.

        Cheers! 

        /T

      • March 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm #35844
        RichWaugh
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          I think forward is the 540 rpm position and rear is the 1000 rpm position.  The KingKutter is intended to use a 540 rpm input speed.

          Note that the PTO speed will be approximately as listed when the engine rpm is in the green band on your tach.

        • March 17, 2013 at 9:55 pm #35847
          Bob Rooks
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            Small correction to Rich's post. The two speeds are 540 r/m and 720 r/m at rated engine speed (check with photo tach). The 1,000 r/m PTO's have 20 and 21 splines.

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          • March 18, 2013 at 5:23 am #35856
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              Bob thats not true either, all the Jinma 254/284 tractors have a 6 spline PTO with 540/1000 Speeds

               

              The Jinma 354 tractors have the 540/720 Speeds

               

              Tommy

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            • March 18, 2013 at 12:32 pm #35859
              Dan Lewis
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                I wish my rhino was that way, it is like a lot of US tractors where you have to remove the 6 spline shaft, replace it with the finer splined shaft that engages a different gear inside the tractor to achieve the higher rotational speed for the implement

              • March 18, 2013 at 12:41 pm #35860
                Anthony Staples
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                  So is my tractor same as a jinma? 

                  the forward position (lever to the rear of tractor) is the 540rpm, right?

                • March 18, 2013 at 2:35 pm #35861
                  Bob Rooks
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                    Tommy wrote:

                    Bob thats not true either, all the Jinma 254/284 tractors have a 6 spline PTO with 540/1000 Speeds.

                    Then how does that work when the 1,000 r/m implements have 20/21 splines? Is there an adapter of some sort included?

                     

                    Super-T wrote:

                    the forward position (lever to the rear of tractor) is the 540rpm, right?

                    I'm sorry man, that just doesn't make sense to me – “forward position …. to the rear?”

                    I believe on most tractors the 540 r/m range would be pointed towards the engine.

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                  • March 18, 2013 at 2:45 pm #35862
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                      I have seen 21 spline PTO shafts before, but we are talking  Chinese Tractors 101, and they have 6- spline shafts, 540/1000 speed selectors  

                       

                      Tommy

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                    • March 18, 2013 at 3:00 pm #35863
                      Anthony Staples
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                        Bob

                        the PTO selection lever has a pivot point so, moving the lever operates a quadrant type selector with three pin holes on the other side of the pivot 

                        So… moving the lever toward the rear of the tractor moves the pin on the other side of the pivot to the forward pin hole and vice versa. 

                        Cheers, 

                        /T

                      • March 18, 2013 at 4:27 pm #35864
                        RichWaugh
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                          Oh for cripes' sake!  Don't get all tangled up in weird semantics.   Push the lever forward for 540 rpm and yank it back for 1000.   If you still aren't sure, put a tach on the output shaft and see what it says.

                        • March 18, 2013 at 6:01 pm #35865
                          Bob Rooks
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                            Rich wrote:

                            “Oh for cripes' sake!  Don't get all tangled up in weird semantics.   Push the lever forward for 540 rpm and yank it back for 1000.   If you still aren't sure, put a tach on the output shaft and see what it says.”

                            No offense Super-T but Rich took the words right out of my mouth. I bought a photo tach from Harbor Freight. Works great!

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                          • March 18, 2013 at 6:41 pm #35867
                            Anthony Staples
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                              ok, so, thanks, I guess… 

                            • March 19, 2013 at 11:35 pm #35876
                              SpringValley
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                                This is one of those simple things that somehow got complicated.  A person can tell the difference between the two speeds just by watching the PTO spin.   Let it idle, watch the PTO in each selection.  One speed is almost double the other.     

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