Foton 404 3pt. problems

Tommy I have a 5gal. jug of Extreme pure flo hydraulic and transmission fluid that meet JD specs. Would this be acceptable? It doesn't say the weight of the fluid. It says it's acceptable in JD, Case, Ford Newholland, IH, MF, White, and Catapillar. I figure I'll drain an replace fluid and see what it does. Larry.

   I bought the universal for my Ford Jubilee but it doesn't leak and haven't had to add, just thought I'd be able to get rid of it. Sounds like I'd be better of getting some 32 wt. I'll also try turning the valve under the seat more. Spent today replacing rubber lines. I found some cracked ones and some fittings that were leaking. Also the cover over the fuse box is missing, which I assume would have the fuse diagram. I checked the manual and it doesn't have it, so does any one know which slots and fuses are for what? Larry.

   The previous owner was selling everything he had and moved away. I tried to get a hold of him but he's gone. I figured I couldn't get hurt to bad the hr. meter reads 53hr. and I only gave $3600.00 for it. Larry.

  Thank you! I didn't know there's a set screw. I'll check it tuesday. Thats probably why I had to use a wrench to get it to turn. I guess it's a case of the nut behind the wrench. I appreciate the info. Larry.

    I checked the knob under the seat and there wasn't a set screw. I turned the knob counterclockwise 3 more turns and it didn't make a difference. The manual shows a drain plug on the lower left, but mine doesn't have one. Do I pull the line on the lower right to drain it. It's looking more and more like I need to tear down and check O rings. Thank You Ron for the picture and Diagram, but mine is totally different. I have five fuses on the left side and 7 fuses down the middle with 3 relays on the right side. There is a slot at the top right for a relay that is blank. I don't know if there is suppose to be one there or not. My instrument cluster and lights are not working. I checked all the fuses and they are ok. I figure I'll take the multi-meter up there and start checking for power at the pin blocks. This may sound like a stupid question but how do I tell which motor I have. The manual says there is 3 different manufacturers. I have a 4 cylinder motor. Larry.

   Thanks Tommy. I'll be calling you.

   Tommy,  Is there a filter or anything that affects the 3pt. and not the loader? Also can I pull the line off going to 3pt to makesure I have flow? I don’t see a drain plug like the parts manual shows. I went to your web site and looked at the rebuild kit (price is a lot cheaper than I thought it would be). Is there a shop manual for this tractor? I got one for my Ford and it sure makes repairs a lot easier. I’m going thru things to see if there is anything else I need, try and get it all in one shot. I finally got the electrical working. I got contact cleaner and took all conectors apart and sprayed them. Everything came on! Larry.

  Thanks Tommy and Rich. I called Thomas and ordered everything I figured I needed, the 3pt. rebuild kit, starter selnoid, and all filters (as long as it sat I figured it would be for the best). Thomas told me some really important info I needed to know. Tommy you were right I've got a 490BT motor. The kids are coming in this weekend for the holidays. Between getting ready, the event, and aftermath probably be a week or so before I'll get to do it. Thanks and have a good holiday. Larry.

  Well I got the rebuild kit. First go around I tried replacing the O ring and wiper on the main cylinder and got nothing. Next I removed the carb plate and main block. I removed what I could and cleaned, sprayed with WD, and blew out with air, still nothing. The parts book is different than what I have. I’m at a loss!!!! Larry

   Ok but my block and plate is totally different than the book. The one-way valve between the two is opposite from the book. T book shows cup, spring and mine is spring and cup. I tried to put it like the book shows but the spring will go up inside the housing that way and won't even touch the cup. My main block is different than the book. The book shows on the return side parts removed from both sides but mine has no opening on one side. This is the part right above the lift valve and I couldn't get it to move. How do I get it out? Threw the side I could open and close the spring loaded valve in there so I shot with WD and blew it out with air. Larry.

   Tommy,

   I pulled the line off going in to the 3pt box and pull the gas cut off and motor the engine over and nothing came out. I went to the multi valve and pulled the line and motored over and got nothing. I went to the block at the bucket control and pulled the out going which go's to the multi-valve and motored the engine over and I got nothing. There's a valve there so I pulled it and the inside mechanisms won't move, but it doesn't look like this valve comes apart. I blew it out and re-inserted it, motored it over and nothing. My question is will motoring the engine over without actually starting it be enough to show me anything? Larry.

   It looks like I'm not getting anything past the pressure valve at the loader block. The line comes off the pump to the loader block and by pressure to multi-valve to 3pt. That valve is froze up, which is a part from the loader company(I think). Lesson learned – start at the beginning and work back. I made something simple alot of work. I'll let you know if I get it freed up or replaced and if it works. I guess it wasn't all for nothing I gained knowledge on the 3pt. box and how the system is routed and works. Larry.

  Tommy;

  I went online and can't find this pressure beyond valve. I've had this one soaking in PB Blaster and it's not freeing up. There's a cross sticker on the back of the block (you were right – it's made by cross). I'll start checking with local hydraulic shops and see what I can come up with. Larry.

   So far I can't find anyone who can get the valve. John at Spirit says he has two 2600 series but the other number is different. I've got an E06 and he has an A06, so he has to see if there is a difference. The local shops haven't been able to come up with it and I couldn't find it on-line. I soaked it for two days and blew it out, it's still stuck. Not looking good. Larry.

   I had a local hydraulic shop send the pic of the valve to cross and they matched it up. They will get it ordered Monday, takes 7 to 10 days. The number off the block came up with something totally different so I sent the pic. Tommy you saw the pic of the valve. Could my lines be hook up wrong? The flow goes in the bottom and out the top. I don't see how the valve works that way. Would it do any damage if I tried to swap them? Larry.

    They didn't, they just gave a part number (1R0132-04-260). I was planning on leaving it tore down until I got the part just in case the valve wasn't the only problem, but we got dumped on today. We got over a foot of extremely wet snow. I stuck my ford three times and gave up. It was so wet it wouldn't roll on the back blade, it would stick and pile-up and turn to ice under the wheels. The neighbor got his tractor out to pull me out and stuck it twice, we had a real mess. I went in the garage and put the Foton back together. I'll use the loader tomorrow to dig out. We're hitting 33 below zero tonight with 35 mile an hour wind. We haven't had this kind of weather in over twenty years. Larry.

   The new valve came in. I'm getting fluid past the block, but still no lift. I'm going to have to tear the 3pt back down. I couldn't get part of the distributor block apart. That has to be siezed up as well. I'll probably take it to a hydraulic shop,surely they'll have the tools to get it apart. Larry.