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July 12, 2013 at 8:58 pm #30789
ok I bought a chinese generator the tag rivited to the engine says to use 15/40 the instructions and the repair rep. says use 10/30 is there much difference beyond the weight with the newer formulations? although I intend to use 15/40 since it is stamped on the engine tag unless someone comes up with a good reason not to.
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July 13, 2013 at 3:37 am #36189
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July 13, 2013 at 5:36 am #36190
well what I ment was the differences in the additives between 15/40 ch and 10/30 sj . off the top someones head,no big deal.
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July 13, 2013 at 9:03 am #36191
15W40 is a diesel-rated oil and has additives to keep the soot (carbon) in suspension. 10W30 is an automotive oil and is probably a detergent type with no soot suspension additive. If this is a diesel, definitely use the 15W40.
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July 13, 2013 at 12:31 pm #36192
Rich is correct.
Here is an example (I picked Chevron because it was convenient, and I use it. )
As you can see from the example, 15w/40 is a superior lubricant over the 10w/30, and this will be pretty much the norm across the market spectrum. The “LE” designation is intended for use in post 2007 engines.
(I was surprised to see the Delo 710 lubricant listed as this is an oil specially formulated for use in our 4,000 HP EMD 710G engines).
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July 13, 2013 at 4:32 pm #36193
ok with that in mind why did the chinese tag a 3 hp gas engine with 15/40 oil requirements on that genrerator and other manfs do not require it? I am puzzled.I am sure 15/40 is a better oil with that in mind why do these other manfs. do not put that in the instruction as what to use? is it to good?extends the life maybe to much?am I getting to deep?
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July 13, 2013 at 5:09 pm #36194
If that's really a 3hp gas engine, then I'd use 10W40 or straight 30wt. I'd guess that they specc'ed 15W-40 because they don't really understand that in our US nomenclature that s a diesel-rated oil and the gas equivalent is 10W-40. YOu don't need the soot suspension additive in a gas engine, but the detergent isn't a bad idea, so I'd use a gas engine oil. In my climate, where it never gets really cold, I generally use straight weight oils. Straight 30wt for all my small gas engines – until they get so sloppy they need heavier oil to keep from fouling plugs.
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July 13, 2013 at 5:31 pm #36195
You can use any of those oils and you will be fine, but I'd prefer the 20w/40. The 10w/30 may be easier to crank in cold climates.
3 HP equates to only 2.2 kW, and that's not figuring any losses.
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July 14, 2013 at 12:21 am #36196
One reason a person might want to run a 15-40 diesel engine oil in a gas engine that is a standard ohv with standard (non roller lifters) or cam -solid lifter including hydraulic solid lifter, is reduced wear on the cam/ lifter wear interface…
Since the oil companies (by order of the EPA) have been reducing the ZDDP (Zinc Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate) -contains Zinc and Phosphorous materials that are sacrificed -instead of the metal of the cam and lifters due to metal to metal contact- resulting in premature wear.
All diesel rated oils have more of these sacrificial metals which can save wear of the solid lifters and cam.. Some people buy the ZDDP additives and add them to for high $ 60's muscle cars. Personally I run Shell Rotella T in my 69 GTO engine and some other older American gas engines… my 2 cents
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July 14, 2013 at 7:57 am #36197
well the overhead valve wear thing is a good thought since straight 30 wt oil is getting a little harder to find by the gal. maybe 15/40 will get put in the ohv's that I have afterall lawnmowers operate in very dusty conditions some extra antiwear propertys can not hurt.
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July 20, 2013 at 8:37 am #36208
I run Rotella T 15w40 in everything I own and have done so since the 1970's when Cummins Engine Company had serious issues with Chevron Delo 400. I consider the extra protection the Rotella T provides worth using it over anything else on the market.
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July 20, 2013 at 6:41 pm #36212
yea that is the road I am going to go down ,I am just going to use up what is here, then one engine oil 15/40.
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