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July 6, 2013 at 9:15 pm #30788
Anyone know if the radiators are the same for the following tractors/engines; JM200 (Y290) & JM204 (Y380). Both 20 hp 2 and 3 cyl. Wanting to install a JM 200 new radiator into a 204 3 cyl. Thanks in advance, Glenn
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July 6, 2013 at 11:52 pm #35871
Easy.
Measure the overall height, width, and depth, then measure the height and width of the core. Then calculate the total volume (in quarts or liters) of the top and bottom tanks. Next count the number of rows of tubes in the core (seriously). The radiator with the highest values is the one that will be interchangeable heat transfer wise, assuming the mounts are compatible and everything else fits.
If everything is the same between the two radiators then you have your answer.
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July 7, 2013 at 7:56 am #35873
I would hate to see the HARD way to figure it out. But, as always thanks BOB for posting good and helpful information on the site.
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July 7, 2013 at 8:15 am #35874
The radiators are different in size ( TY290 vs Y380 ) as well as the inlet and outlet hoses.The Radiator for the Y380 and Y385 are already min. size, you will read several topics of overheating.With the smaller TY290 rad, if you get it in would not cool the engine and you are going to have more problems.Which 200 series radiator do you have ?
Tommy
Affordable Tractor Sales
” Your Jinma Parts Superstore”
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July 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm #35878
Hal wrote:
“I would hate to see the HARD way to figure it out. But, as always thanks BOB for posting good and helpful information on the site.”
There is no hard way for that one Hal, there is only the easy way or the lazy way.
It's all in fun.
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July 7, 2013 at 6:10 pm #35879
Some years back I bew the radiator on atruck I owned. When I checked on replacements the price scared me so I went to a radiator repair shop. For less than the cost of a new one, they pulled my old one apart and put in a new core with four rows instead of the original three. It worked much better and saved me money. I wonder if you could do the same with the radiator from the Jinma? I wonder if radiator repair shops still exist, as a matter of fact?
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July 7, 2013 at 6:28 pm #35880
Radiator repair shops as we know them are a dying breed, mostly due to the EPA lead regulations and manufacturers going throw-away thermoplastic.
I found one shop in the Greater Seattle area that still does it, and they even repair plastic and aluminum radiators and heater cores, but as I found out, they can't perform miracles. Had to buy a whole new heater for the mini-ex.
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July 7, 2013 at 6:33 pm #35881
well off I go to the radiator shop. looks like one of the core pipes blew out as the spray staining pattern starts about 3/4ths of the way up from the bottom tank and to the left of center and V's downward . Even if a tank blew I think they are brass and it can be repaired. Its 10 yrs old with over 1,000 hrs on it so I'm hoping I'm not throwing away good money fixing it as the repair shop is 45 mins away and two trips- 180 miles. The good news is that if it is fixable, the shop told me they can fix it in just a day. Down time is a concern but if I get it back on Tue, awesome. I do agree it is Min on cooling ability. Whenever the air temp is over 60, the gauge runs at redline but the engine does not overheat. Maybe it doesn't get hot outside in china – Lol.. By the way, this 204 has been an awesome tractor- Its an '03. Only things ever replaced have been the 4X4 driveline, 3 point arms (installed 254 longer arms), and the original China hydraulic quick connects. The original owner dug two house footings with a Koyker 160 and wore out a 5ft brush hog in 700 hrs!. He then traded it in and I sold him a new 354 4cyl. He thought he blew the clutch. But, it was just a sheared roll pin in the pedal lever. Good for me as I didn't have to split the tractor and decided to keep this little gem for myself. Also, he never serviced the transmission or the front end. After draining the trans, I filled it with diesel and ran thru the gears for a few min's. You would not believe what came out with that flush. I will post on the radiator repair results. Thanks much for the input/advice.
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July 7, 2013 at 8:23 pm #35882
If all else fails, we have plenty of new ones in stock
Tommy
Affordable Tractor Sales
“Your Jinma Parts Superstore”
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July 7, 2013 at 11:52 pm #35883
Your repair costs will largely be dictated by how well your cooling system has been maintained and what type of coolant you have used. Small particles of casting sand from the engine can erode a radiator away, as well as trashing water pumps and seals.
Good luck.
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July 8, 2013 at 2:57 pm #35884
I absolutely LOVE hearing”with over 1000 hrs on it” ! ! My 2007 284 has 550 now. Still pluggin along and very happy with it.
Code 347 CLDTI
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July 12, 2013 at 8:32 am #36188
Make sure that you are using the correct pressure cap,I think around 5 psi,the radiators are thin and to much pressure could be a factor in that it split,if you do have it reworked I would have it redone with more cooling capacity,since others have said that they are on the marginal side.
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January 11, 2014 at 10:27 am #36652
We had some -40 weather for a couple weeks and my rad is now leaking at the header. Has anyone successfully used a rad from something else in a 284. There isn't a local dealer in Canada and I'd like to avoid the border process on a large package.
Paul
Paul
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January 11, 2014 at 4:45 pm #36654
Do you have a radiator shop nearby that can repair it?
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January 15, 2014 at 2:00 pm #36659
It's in getting fixed now. Also found a parts supplier in Canada.
Paul
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January 18, 2014 at 10:09 pm #36667
Rad shop did a quick turn around and I'm back in business.
Paul
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January 19, 2014 at 1:14 am #36668
A good one will do that
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January 22, 2014 at 1:13 pm #36693
Just broke the fan belt, not a good couple of weeks. I found GATES 9415 as a cross reference so will give that a try when I find one.
Paul
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January 22, 2014 at 4:04 pm #36694
Boy, can I relate to that! Blew the radiator on my shop truck yesterday. Both head gaskets blown, too. Rats!
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January 22, 2014 at 5:09 pm #36695
I feel your pain. The 9415 belt was too long, back in the morning to get the next shorter one.
Paul
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January 22, 2014 at 5:12 pm #36696
To add, I have not had the cross reference list work for me yet. Napa 2276 air filter has plastic fins around one end, I guess they could be removed. The lower rad hose number could not be found by my local NAPA and the GATES # is just a flex hose, no good when you want to splice in a hose heater. Half the fun is making something work I guess.
Paul
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January 22, 2014 at 8:11 pm #36697
Allow to stick my nose in here…
As for the Napa 2276. Yes if you slip the plastic fins off then the air filter is identical to the original. It's all we ever used.
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January 23, 2014 at 1:49 pm #36700
I recommend using one of the link belts as they work better and make replacement a snap. The ones from Harbor Freight are perfectly fine.
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January 23, 2014 at 3:05 pm #36703
I'll give the fin removal a go, thanks. I went with a DAYCO 17400 (40 inches) top cog belt. The belt was difficult to get on but it is -25 degrees C and working without gloves was painful. I took the adjusting bolt completely out to give me extra room to get the belt on, I wanted to get the belt cover off anyways as the top attachment on it was broken. Once tightened up it sits around the middle of the adjuster so glad I went with that length. Hopefully thats it for a while.
Paul
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