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November 26, 2012 at 3:12 am #30693
I thought you might like to follow the first major project for the 252L has done since rebuilding the shuttle clutch.
The aim is to build a track through this canyon to get to eighty acres of the farm that have been been accessible. The the Guilin dozer and the IHI excavator make a good team.
Enjoy the ride!
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November 26, 2012 at 3:15 am #35322
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November 26, 2012 at 3:20 am #35323
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November 26, 2012 at 10:13 am #35325
Awesome pics, and very nice benchwork in the hillside too.
How is the shuttle clutch working out?
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November 26, 2012 at 12:37 pm #35326
Gorgeous looking countryside! Sure wish I could pop over and give you a hand, just to visit the country there.
Looks like an ambitious project that is coming along very nicely. Good work!
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November 28, 2012 at 11:57 pm #35330
Cheers guys. If you are ever passing, drop in 🙂 I'll put up some more pics of the progress soon. I'm down in the canyon now, but still a bit of a steep grade, so a bit more shaping up. The shuttle clutch has been going great so far, but she now seem to have have developed issues with the left track. The brake tends to slip, and the steering clutch tends to slip… I adjusted the brake tighter, and it helped, but didn't solve it. I tried adjusting the steering clutch linkage, but no improvement. I presume that the steering brake and clutch are dry? Do you think that suggests there is oil in there making them slip…?
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December 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm #35361
Well I got through, and it is now drive-able with a soft roader. Here are a few more pics of the building of the track.
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December 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm #35362
This is the cut as finished.
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December 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm #35363
This is where all that soil went! To give me space to build this ramp down to the canyon ledge.
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December 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm #35364
Once down on the canyon ledge it was plane sailing to doze a nice track along the ledge to the top of the canyon and out into the 'eighty acres'.
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December 2, 2012 at 3:38 pm #35365
Even to get to the start of the canyon track involved some fun dozing.
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December 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm #35366
Map of route
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December 2, 2012 at 11:09 pm #35367
Nice job! Great pics of gorgeous countryside, too – I’m envious. Thanks for sharing with us.
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December 2, 2012 at 11:51 pm #35368
Your pics are a fine testament to your catskinner skills, and also to the capabilities of the Yuchai/Guilin dozer. Well done in my opinion.
Ever thought about setting up a camcorder on a tripod and taking a video?
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December 3, 2012 at 1:36 pm #35374
Yeah fun country hey. I was brought up in Devon, England, so I thought I was used to hills, but when we moved here in 2001 I realized that our hills back there were more like ripples in the carpet. Also farm back there was smaller than a couple of our paddocks here.
I do have a few vids on Youtube… but not of dozing… more suspension development stuff. The problem with videoing the dozing is it would all be a bit slow. I guess if I did a couple of hours of vid and then speeded it up x12 then it might be fun to watch. If you are interested in my vids of suspension and machining search for 'self regulating pneumatic suspension” or 'Levitation'.
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December 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm #35375
I have a fair bit of experience with tractors and tracked excavators, but this was my first real project using a dozer. So my opinion on the Guilin dozer is from that limited perspective.
I appears to be a very capable little dozer, appears to be the right weight for its size, and the right hp/ton ratio. It would be foolish to expect it to work as fast and hard as a heavier machine. The blade seem to have all the movement and angle variation it needs.
The only limitation I found capability wise that I thought was not comparable to other dozers I had seen working, was reversing up hill. She seemed nose heavy and very inclined to stand up on her tip toes and rock over to one side, which was somewhat disconcerting. particularly when it is a looooong way down if she did tip over. Maybe I should make a 1/2 ton weight to go on her 3 point to keep the tail down.
Having the rear sprockets three feet off the ground and the bonnet (hood for you chaps in USA) closer to vertical rather than horizontal somehow doesn't seem ideal!
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December 3, 2012 at 5:47 pm #35377
“Self-regulating pneumatic suspension”- that sounds like the”Hydrolastic” suspe nsion on my old MiniCooper back in the sixties. Thrust on one side when cornering was supposed to push the other side down to maintain equal ground engagement. I never drove it hard enough to really test that theory fully. In theory, there’s no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there inevitably seems to be. (grin)
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December 3, 2012 at 5:48 pm #35378
“Self-regulating pneumatic suspension”- that sounds like the”Hydrolastic” suspe nsion on my old MiniCooper back in the sixties. Thrust on one side when cornering was supposed to push the other side down to maintain equal ground engagement. I never drove it hard enough to really test that theory fully. In theory, there’s no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there inevitably seems to be. (grin)
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December 3, 2012 at 5:48 pm #35379
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December 4, 2012 at 4:40 pm #35385
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December 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm #35389
Rich, the Alec Molton hydragas system was one of the systems that got me interested in suspension along with Citreon's hydro-pneumatic setup. I wanted a system that achieved more with less compromises than anything I could find, so I built my own. Ten years of sketch on back of envelopes and over a 1000 hours at the old lathe resulted in prototypes of a “Self regulating fully pneumatic suspension system” I think is what I called it in the patent. (Patents are a foolish idea, and I would take a lot of persuasion to go there again.) Basically it is closer related to air suspension, with internal mechanical height control. The ride height, spring rate, and damping rate is all achieved with the same gas, and as a result remains directly proportional to each other and to the load carried. I find practice far more effective and fun than theory!!!
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December 4, 2012 at 8:40 pm #35390
Been a wet couple of days over here, so it will be interesting to see how the track has settled and coped with the weather.
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December 5, 2012 at 1:33 am #35391
Sure looks different than it does around here. I'll have to take a few pics, if it weren't for the junipers and sagebrush it would be hard to tell this place from the moon.
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December 22, 2012 at 9:48 am #35446
That's a nice looking road now and I enjoyed your photo's. Did you get the clutch and brake problem fixed?
How is the road doing with the rain? Did you angle the road bed in towards the cut in the hill side? Are you going to gravel the road or at least the ditch to control runoff water?
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