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Bob can you tell me reasoning that we should not use the ISO fluid?
I will try, but it should be noted that any oil is better than no oil at all. One could apply the old axiom “When in Rome do as the Romans do”. My skid steer with a Yanmar diesel, My excavator with a Mitsubishi diesel, and my Ford F-350 with an International diesel, all have fuel injection pumps lubricated from the engine’s oiling system. Attached is an official Foton FT404 oil chart, which has an independent oil sump for the injection pump. I believe the compressor oil suggestion started way back when in the Chinese Tractor Forum on TBN. I know it goes back to when I joined the forum in 2007, where it was discussed at length in many threads. It was assumed by some that the fuel injection pump was similar to an air compressor in function. Nothing could be further from the truth, as liquids, for all practical purposes, are incompressible. Here is one example:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/chinese-tractors/169700-injector-oil-question.html?highlight=compressor+oil
Some compressor oils are formulated for use in rotary screw, rotary vane, and reciprocating air compressors, others for refrigeration compressors, and others for natural gas compressors. These oils use a diester or polyester base stock with various proprietary additive packages to suit the application. One of the main additives allows for rapid dispersal of moisture. They are available in ISO grades of 32, 68, 100, 150, and 220. None of them have an Anti-Wear (AW) or AGM rating.
Next is the viscosity index, empirical unitless number indicating the effect of temperature change on the kinematic viscosity of oil (liquids change viscosity with temperature, becoming less viscous when heated; the higher viscosity index number of an oil the lower its tendency to change viscosity with temperature. So as an example, a 15w/40 CF rated engine oil will have a viscosity index of around 142, whereas an ISO 100 compressor oil will have a viscosity index of around 84, hence one advantage of using a multi grade engine oil. There are many other factors to consider to consider such as shear strength, etc., but I don’t want you to suffer from my oral dysentery any longer.Account deleted.
Tyler, your in-house statistics pale by comparison to the hundreds of thousands of fuel injection pumps and governors (all manufacturers) that are pressure lubricated from the engine oiling system, and those with independent sumps that specify the same oil used in the engine. We have all been susceptible at one time or another for doing something wrong for a long time. There is nothing wrong with accepting constructive criticism.
If you will kindly show an official Jinma document prescribing compressor oil for the fuel injection pump (any engine will do), I will happily concede and digress, and consider learned something new.
Here is something you can peruse.PS: My apologies for the wrong name.
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Here is a Bosch three cylinder fuel injection pump/governor assembly Trevor. Please tell me how they are different. In addition to Bosch, Stanadyne makes a direct replacement also. In addition, I could not find anywhere in my TY395 engine manual where compressor oil was referenced or recommended.
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Here is the list of WIX filters we recommend using.
I notice that you are still recommending compressor oil for the fuel injection pump. How does it feel to be the only dealer in the world to do this? What is your justification for it? These are basically Bosch type pumps with a simple governor, and many are lubricated from the engine’s own oil pressure system. Why not correct your database to say “same oil that’s used in the engine”. That is Bosch and Woodward Governor’s recommendation. There is absolutely nothing in the injection pump assembly that resembles any type of compressor. You are making naive tractor owners purchase unneeded/unnecessary inventory.
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Looking for exchange numbers for all the filters, maybe to wix or fram. Are the factory filters really any good and worth the price???
Wix yes, Fram no. And yes, the factory filters are good and readily available. You have to be careful when cross referencing Chinese filters because the same part number is used on different filters, and vice versa. It would be best to contact Tommy at Affordable Tractor, or take your Chinese filter into a parts store and match them up, Then you will know for sure.
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I think you will likely only find blue diesel around larger agricultural communities.
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You found blue diesel fuel, lucky you.
Diesel fuels are classified by the type of use, amount of sulfur emissions and tax category. Clear (yellow or green tint) diesel, having low sulfur and carrying the full tax, is for highway users and is the most expensive. Blue diesel, which is higher in sulfur and tax exempt, is for use in commercial boats, trains and some farm equipment; it is the least expensive. Falling in between is red diesel, which is lower in sulfur than blue, tax free and meant for buses, government vehicles and off-road use.Account deleted.
Does your key switch look like this?
Nope….it has from left to right….Q o D Y Q on the label around where you put in the key…The tractor is a 2006 McConnell Marc 425xl (Jinma 254)..I tried to post a picture, but it won’t load…
Ok, the key functions are the same as in my picture. Q=Start (Q on the left is start without glow plugs). O=Off. Y=Glow plug heat. Q=Start (Q on right is start with glow plugs).
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