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Hello all!
Well I got my Prince pump yesterday and started to make the fittings for it. I went to two NAPA stores and the said they could not match it to my current hoses and did not have any fittings to make new hoses (they said the Prince pump had metric fitings – not so they didn't have a clue to the fitting size). I live in SE Georgia in farm country and there isn't any real tractor shops for about 40 miles. Go figure! There is some small shops, but what I went through last night and today for cost and time I could have paid a shop from Atlanta to come out and set me up. I did not put a filter on the suction due to no one having fittings for the hose ( I purchased one from Surplus). My next attempt will be a filter on the return line like Bob did.
I had two different shops make me adapters for my factory hoses to fit the Prince Pump. One shop made an externsion for the high pressure side and another made the suction hose. They made the suction hose the same size as the factory 5/8″ and I am thinking that is where my problem is.
I cleaned and pressurer washed the inside of the sump tank to make sure that all the rust was out of it, took out the PRV and cleaned it (there is a split white plastic spacer next to the “O” ring on the PRV, I take it that ring is split to be able to fit on the valve, if not do I need nother one? Then hooked everything up and filled the tank with NAPA RO (10 weight) hydraulic fulid ( could not find anyone around here that had or heard of mulit vescosity AW32/46/68) I feel like I am living on Mars when it comes to parts and modifying/repairing this tractor in this area.
When I started the tractor up and engaged the PTO the BH jumped to life and the cylinders were working, but when I put the rpms up to 1,200-1,500 the pump started to “BUZZ” and the controls stopped working.
I am thinking that the return line is not big enough (5/8″) to produce the volume of suction needed and the pump is cavitating.
I most likey need to start all over and get at least a 1″ suction hose and make an adapter for the fitting in the reservoir tank to remove the banjo fitting.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
LenBo
Rich, Tinbender & Bob:
You are right. I should have put the it at 0.20mm & 0.25mm (engine cold)>
I'll take my hearing protedtion off to see how loud it is 🙂
Thanks much for the correction. I'll work on it tomorrow and post my results. I also got my Pince pump for the LW7 BH today. I am currently modifing the fittings to my hoses. I'll post the resluts on the topic for my BH that I posted.
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LenBo
I contacted Ronald and the head bolt torque is 140 ft lbs
Intake valve adjustment is 20mm
Exhaust valve adjustment is 25mm
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LenBo
Thanks
I am on line with Surplus and will order just the suction filter.
I'll get back to you after I put the new pump on with the results.
Thanks again for all your help and information!!!!
LenBo
Bob
Thanks
I am getting ready to order the pump and make the return line filter system like you have. The Prince web site also recomends putting a filter on the suction line. Should I get the 9GPM 3/4″ or 25GPM 1 1/4″ .
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Len
This BH issue is frustrating. The paperwork I got from the dealer listed AW32 for cold climates and 46 from warm climates. I live in Georgia where it is real hot durning the summer so I went with the ISO 46.
I spoke with the dealer and he said they have had all kinds of problems (problems like I am having) with that bolt on pump and he no longer sells them with the BH. He said they are going with another Chineese manufacture shaft PTO pump or plumbing the BH directly into the tractor hydraulics from the FEL. He said that work great.
I am going to get a Prince PTO, put an inline filter on, change to oil.
Where is a good place to get a Prince pump 7gpm? Also I guess I would need to take my return and pressure hoses off and have new fitting put on them to fit the pump.
Thanks much
LenBo
Bob:
That is a nice set up you made. I'll have to go to the store and make one like it. Probably get the filter & housing at a auto store and the pipe & conections at a hardware store
The reservior tank came with the hoe. I just measured it and it is 7 gallon (looks smaller) and I take it that the PTO bolt on stock pump is 7 gallon.
The hydraulic oil I am using is ISO 46 (20W).
I should have put a temp probe in the oil to know the exact temp.
What size bucket do you have on your LW-6 and what PTO pump are you using?
Thanks much!
LenBo
Rich:
I was thinking along the same lines of an oil cooler, but wanted to see if someone has already done and tested a system. I shoud have also asked, at the same time, about installing an in line filter since it came with no filter, only a strainer in the reservior tank.
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Blue Skies
LenBo
Bob
Thanks I give them a call.
LenBo
Gentelmen:
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
I took the PRV apart and cleaned it, didn't really see and debris when I cleaned it. Turned the screw 1/4 turn less than the orginal mark and it didn't work at all. Put it back to orginal and run real slow, put it 1/4 turn in and seemed to have more power. I just went out to dig a tree stump out and it seemed to work a little better than before, but still weak. Have to run the engine at 2,000 rpm. I need to get a guage to put on the line to know excatly what the pressure is. Does anyone know where I can get one to fit on my hose and pump or can tell me where to get tge parts to make one?
Thanks again
LenBo
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