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Just an update I have some pictures from this project. I still need to fabricate hose holders, but for now they are not in the way of any harm.
Prince pump connected to PTO. 1 1/4″ suction line & 3/4″ outlet line.
1 ¼ “ Street elbow with 1 ¼” NPT barb connection welded to sump tank flange.
1 ¼” connection to sump tank.
1 ¼” suction line with 25 micron filter/suction gauge and ¾” High pressure outlet line with pressure gauge.
This modification made my LW-7 BH a totally different machine. It works GREAT now.
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Len
Thanks for the tip on the knob, don't have any problem with my 3 point or FEL, but could not figure out what the knob was for.
Len
I was looking at the schematics for the brake assembly and saw the seals, my first guess was bad seals, but it looks like a real job to take apart the to replace the seal. If I ever some extra down time I start this project and contact you if I need the seals.
Owning this tractor is like having another hobby as a mechanic. I enjoy fixing things and this tractor is keeping me busy.
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Len
I guess it all depends on what and how much cutting you are doing. I have a 20″ & 14″ for felling and then cut the branches off while the tree is on the ground. I also bought a great little B&D portable 8″ saw with rechargeable batteries. I use the small saw for clearing shooting lanes (branches & small trees) when setting up deer stands. Works well for small stuff around the house especially with extra batteries. Can use with one hand and cuts well with a properly sharpened chain.
Len
Thanks much!
I have a 18″ bucket now and would like smaller bucket for digging out stumps. I will check with a couple of tractor dealers outside of Atlanta to see if they have something the will “Match” what I have now. Then will contact a Jima dealer and see if I am traveling by their location while in business so I can pick it up and save on shipping.
Len
Thanks much!
I'll check with Afordable.
Bob:
Thanks for all your help. I guess if I have problems in the future they will be the piston seals. Ithought that the seals may have been a contributing factor to the lack of power in the beginning, but since I did the modification the BH is running GREAT. I suspect that if I start having problems again it will be the seals. Who sells a good set of urethane seals? I just may get them and change out before I have the problem in the middle of a project. I was thinking while I was implementing the modification that the next thing would be rebuilding the cylinders/piston seals or upgrading and purchasing bigger cylinders/piston depending oncost difference. Since running the BH today the cylinders/pistons have plenty of power so I don't think it is necessary to buy bigger cylinders, but may have to rebuild the seals.
Thanks again for all your help!!!
Len
I called them the other day for a LienBack 3 point Post Hole that they had advertized. I was going to be in the area where they are located (East TN) and they said they are all sold out and the factory has them on back order. They said they were selling like hot cakes and the factory is weeks/months behind on orders.
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LenBo
Bert:
It's like night and day. I don't know if you ahve had any problems with your LW-7, but mine is running 1,000% better. If you need any help for a modification like this contact me. Hopefully the hydraulic cylinders will hold out with all this new power or I'll be putting more posts on this site.
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Len
Well after putting a Prince HC PTO 7A pump (7gpm) on to see if the BH worked better I was impressed with the additional performance. However when I was trying to make the pump fit, I did not have the resources in my area to make up the proper suction/outlet hose so I modified the factory hose/fittings to allow the BH to work. After taking the info from Bob Rooks and other members I was concerned that the factory suction set up was not good and would possibly damage the pump. I called Prince and a tech there said to use at least 1¼” line on the suction. The tech manual for the pump states at least 1” and the pump came with a #16 SAE 1” barb for the intake. The high pressure outlet calls for at least ½” line.
I decided to make some modifications!
First I had to do a modification on the sump tank before I could get started. I removed the tank fitting that holds the in-tank filter and Banjo fitting and cut the center out with a cutting torch so that the male end of a 1¼” street 90 elbow would fit into it. I then welded it in the fitting. Next I took a 1¼” npt hose barb and screwed it into the elbow, put that modified fitting back in the tank and connected 1.5’ of 1¼” suction hose, another 1¼” npt hose barb to connect the suction line filter rated at 25gpm flow with a 25 micron filter and a Filter Indicator Gauge to measure the vacuum on the filter to determine when it was getting dirty. Connected another 1¼” npt hose barb out of the filter to another 2.5’ of suction hose, then a 1¼” npt hose barb on the other end to connect into the #16 SAE fitting on the pump. With this setup the pump is almost like directly connected to the sump tank with plenty of fluid flow. I also put a digital temp gauge on my valve control panel with a remote sensor inside the return hose where it enters the reservoir tank. Wanted to see how hot the oil got from prolonged use.
Next I had to modify the outlet side of the pump. I connected the #12SAE fitting to the pump with 3’ of ¾” hose to a ¾” “T” with female swivels. On the top of the “T” I put a ¾” to ¼” adapter to put a 3,000psi gauge, on the other end of the “T” I used a ¾” to ½” adapter to connect to the line for the valve control. With the pressure gauge on the line I can adjust my PRV and know what my working pressure is.
Put everything on and filled up with NAPA AW32 hydraulic oil. Started it up and set my PRV at 2,000 – 2,100 psi and watched my pressure gauge while working. All hydraulic cylinders topped out at that psi when loaded. I took my machine to a friend’s property and started digging out some relativity big stumps this morning.
The BH that I have now after the modification is OUTSTANDING! I can’t believe how much difference it made; it’s not the same hoe. It’s like I bought a $10,000 JD and put it on. I only ran my tractor at 850 – 900 rpm’s (compared to 2,000 rpm’s with the old pump) and had real good control response and plenty of power in the hydraulic cylinders. Digging stumps and trying to rip the roots apart is probably the hardest workout a BH can get. The bucket & teeth made short work on ripping roots apart, the arm pulled well and the boom didn’t have a problem lifting I ran the BH for six hours straight at full load digging out some big stumps with lots of roots (sweet gum, cedar) and the BH never slowed down or showed a lack of power. The hydraulic oil only went up to 118F degrees at the highest point. The outside temp was only in the low 70’s so I am sure the oil temp will go up when it gets in the 90’ around here. I think with the new pump, extra large hoses and a big filter on the suction line worked like a cooler to dissipate any heat.
I just want to thank everyone for their input to assist me in making these modifications. I was real disappointed with my factory LW-7, now I am real happy with my modified one.
List of parts for modification.
Item # Description Qty 1 9-4544 1-1/4″ NPT 25 GPM ZINGA SUCTION FILTER 1 2 9-4604-20-16 1.25 HOSEBARB TO SAE 16M ADAPTER 4604-20-16 1 3 9-4404-20-20 1.25 HOSEBARB TO 1.25 NPTM ADAPTER 4404-20-20 3 4 9-1956 20C4 1-1/4″ HYD SUCTION/RETURN HOSE 48” 1 5 9-4544-G FILTER INDICATOR GAUGE USE ON SUCTION LINE ONLY 1 6 9-4543-25 REPLACEMENT FILTER ELEMENT 25 MICRON 1 7 9-5406-12-4 3/4 NPT TO 1/4 NPT BUSHING 1 8 9-1603-12-12-12 3/4 x 3/4 x 3/4 NPTF SWIVEL TEE 1 9 1-2852 LOCTITE #592 THREADED PIPE SEALANT W/TEFLON 1 10 21-1044 3000 PSI 2.5″ LF LM GAUGE 1 11 9-078-36 3/4″ X 36″ 3/4 NPTM X 3/4 NPTM 2250 PSI HYD HOSE 1 13 9-6666 PRINCE PTO PUMP TORQUE BAR KIT 1 14 9-1047-7 3.6 CU IN PRINCE HC-PTO-7A PTO PUMP 540 RPM 1 -
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