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I cannot find anywhere that Traveler UTF oil is rated by the American Gear Manufacturers Association (AGMA), however, ISO AW 46 and 68 hydraulic oil is. Another curiosity about the traveler oil is the Cat TO-2 rating – which one? For me there are too many unanswered questions and curiosities about the Traveler oil. Use at your own risk. I would use your ISO AW 46 hydraulic oil if you can’t find any ISO AW 150 or 220 Machine Oil. There should be a sight glass in the left side reservoir, as well as a return filter.
I have this exact set up…no sight glass though. Ok… It says it is sae 10w20 oil. I will use my ISO46. Got this oil from Tractor Supply.. Most of their stock doesn’t give much description of the oil.
I seriously doubt many people at Tractor Supply have the knowledge of a lubrication engineer so I wouldn’t expect much credible information from them. I do happen to know a couple of lubrication engineers through work (one from Chevron, one from Exxon-Mobil), and I glean all I can from them. I’m also a Chief Engineer and Master Mechanic by trade so I need to have a working knowledge of lubricants beyond “Tom down the road said it’s fine”. I already had the sight gauge fitting bosses in my left tank so I just ordered a new sight gauge from Keno. You can purchase sight gauges that install from one side, or you can make a very simple one by drilling two holes, one at top, one at bottom, in the reservoir for 1/8″ NPT fittings.
I will check for sight glass fittings, if none i will make my own. The owners manual says 30w or 40w oil. Not sure if that can be trusted.
Also, at what height should the oil level be. Should it be below the hose that goes to the top of the shuttle housing? Otherwise I believe it would over fill shuttle housing.
I cannot find anywhere that Traveler UTF oil is rated by the American Gear Manufacturers Association (AGMA), however, ISO AW 46 and 68 hydraulic oil is. Another curiosity about the traveler oil is the Cat TO-2 rating – which one? For me there are too many unanswered questions and curiosities about the Traveler oil. Use at your own risk. I would use your ISO AW 46 hydraulic oil if you can’t find any ISO AW 150 or 220 Machine Oil. There should be a sight glass in the left side reservoir, as well as a return filter.
I have this exact set up…no sight glass though. Ok… It says it is sae 10w20 oil. I will use my ISO46. Got this oil from Tractor Supply.. Most of their stock doesn’t give much description of the oil.
Also sorry I miss read the suction screen info. I do not see one on this unit. I haven’t removed the suction hose yet to see if I can come up with something for it. This machine is a 2002 found on the engine tag.
I had to heat the nut with a torch then pry gear backwards to remove it. I pulled shuttle clutch out and rinsed it in my parts cleaner then again with break cleaner and a blow gun just in case there was any metal there. The screen you mentioned is not on the top plate and the suction hose on the bottom of the case is a single bolt through the center of the line to the case. Should there be a screen there some where?? All bearings roll smooth and I filed the rough edges of the gears due to the nut bouncing around in there. I think due to the large size of the nut, it only nicked up the outside of the shuttle clutch. Is the hydraulic pump difficult to open and clean? Also, why isn’t there a cooler for the shuttle clutch. It gets pretty hot. Can I add one between the suction line and the pump somehow?
It’s good that nut didn’t find it’s way into the gear mesh. Geez! Good work. Ok, about the suction screen; I didn’t find where I said it was in a top plate. I said a three bolt flange on the bottom right side of the shuttle clutch housing. Apparently yours is different. In the picture I posted you can clearly see the screen laying horizontally inside across the bottom. If you don’t have a suction screen or filter before the pump, I strongly suggest installing one. Oil cooler; Does your shuttle clutch have a hydraulic accumulator in the left saddlebag, and does it utilize the left saddlebag reservoir? These would be found on most later models, 2004 and up. Also, using the correct oil will make a difference in the operating temperature.
Yes, I have an accumulator and left saddle bag reservoir. I don’t understand why there is no level indicator on this tank. There is a dipstick in the shuttle housing cover. it is hard to know how much to put in the tank.
I found Traveler brand tractor/hydraulic fluid. Is this the correct fluid? I also have ISO46 as well.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.In hind site… I wish I videoed the tear down and re assembly to post on You Tube. There is just nothing out there for assistance. Might have been able to help someone else too.
more pics… was able to pull engine complete with radiator.. wasn’t horrible. I used my bobcat to pull engine that saved me from jacking up machine and possibly removing blade.
My only complaint… everything is nut and bolted.. Cant just run your impact and zip anything out without a wrench to back it…
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You must be logged in to view attached files.I had to heat the nut with a torch then pry gear backwards to remove it. I pulled shuttle clutch out and rinsed it in my parts cleaner then again with break cleaner and a blow gun just incase there was any metal there. The screen you mentioned is not on the top plate and the suction hose on the bottom of the case is a single bolt through the center of the line to the case. Should there be a screen there some where?? All bearings roll smooth and I filed the rough edges of the gears due to the nut bouncing around in there. I think due to the large size of the nut, it only nicked up the outside of the shuttle clutch.
Is the hydraulic pump difficult to open and clean? Also, why isn’t there a cooler for the shuttle clutch. It gets pretty hot. Can I add one between the suction line and the pump somehow?
Wow! I’m speechless……………
Lol… Take a look.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.Found the problem. Engines out found square nut stuck in the idler gear against side wall. Took pry bar and rolled it back to free it up. shuttle clutch is fine. nicked up from the nut floating around until if found its way home. Nut had to be purpose left in there. Absolutely no bolts or nuts in the entire assembly. I will post pics later… cant make them small enough on my lap top.
Excellent! How do the input shaft splines look for full engagement? Yeah, you got lucky. Some yokel has been in there before, you can tell by the lack of gaskets, the overabundant use of RTV, and the use of automatic transmission fluid (ATF).
The input shaft looked fine. I agree…lol. I believe sabotage… There is a back story about this machine before he gave it to me. I guess he got in an argument with a mechanic that was supposed to fix. I got the machine in boxes and large pieces. I’m guessing he left a present for my neighbor…lol… Was a mess. I had to assemble it and run it to figure out why it stopped working for him. At the time, the steering and break clutches were out of adjustment and the pivot arms that actuated the steering clutches were seized open..Found the problem. Engines out found square nut stuck in the idler gear against side wall. Took pry bar and rolled it back to free it up. shuttle clutch is fine. nicked up from the nut floating around until if found its way home. Nut had to be purpose left in there. Absolutely no bolts or nuts in the entire assembly.
I will post pics later… cant make them small enough on my lap top.
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