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  • in reply to: Ford style ignition switch. #46399
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      Below is the info I have on file. No experience with it.

      Hope this helps

      Stuart

       

      Service Advisory 6:
      Ignition Switch Retrofit
      Easy no
      special tools required. http://www.tractoroutlet.
      com/toservice.html
      The ignition switch that came with your Jinma 1828
      HP tractor is multifunction and can present some
      problems after significant use. It can have intermittent faults where the momentary glow plugs and
      starter are immediately on when you turn the key to the first position (lights). In other words, all three
      posts are hot, #2 for lights, #3 for glow plugs, and #4 for starter solenoid. This will cause your 30 amp
      fuse to blow consistently. A replacement switch is available through your local New Holland dealer and
      was used on Ford Series 20009000
      tractors from about 1965 on. Ask for Ford Part # D 5NN11N501A.
      If you would still like to use a direct replacement that requires nothing other than wire for wire
      exchange then we normally stock them. Ask for Jinma part number #TY290
      © Tractor Outlet
      P.O. Box 147
      83548 Bowens Lane
      Christmas Valley, Oregon 97641

      in reply to: Jinma 254 Clutch Adjustment #46386
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        That link is dead but found it here:

        http://johnstractor.homestead.com/

        That site has the info on the clutch adjustment that the OP was looking for. I just could not find the copy I had printed and forgot where it came from.

        Check this out:

        http://johnstractor.homestead.com/JMClutchAdj.html

         

         

        in reply to: Jinma 254 Clutch Adjustment #46383
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          Here are a couple of the PDF files I have collected. I will keep looking for the one with the color photos you asked for. If I find it I will put it up too.

          Hope this helps.

          http://www.harnerfarm.net/Jinma/Jinma284.html

           

          in reply to: Jinma 254 Clutch Adjustment #46382
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            I am working on getting them uploaded to my web site. I will post links as soon as I am done. Hopefully later today.

            in reply to: Jinma 254 Clutch Adjustment #46374
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              Pretty sure I have a printed copy somewhere. Can’t find it right now, and a search of the computer only turned up a couple of manuals in PDF format. They contain the black and white drawings and the procedures. Not sure how to post them to this site.

              Is there a files section somewhere?

              If not, maybe I can email them directly to you.

               

              in reply to: My Jinma 254 idles for a few seconds then cuts out. #46368
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                Wow, that was unexpected, but completely understandable.

                Good thing the engine never got above an idle because if it had dead-headed at speed more than likely something would have broken.

                The factory quick connects on the hydraulics are a know source of problems. The good news is that they are easily replaced.

                Check out the vendor sponsors of this site to find good replacement connectors.

                Thanks for posting the follow up, it will help someone else in the future.

                If for some reason replacing the connectors does not solve the problem, at least it will be isolated to the FEL.

                in reply to: My Jinma 254 idles for a few seconds then cuts out. #46360
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                  Well, to run you need fuel, air, and heat. You have the heat (compression), otherwise it would not start.

                  Exception: are you using the glow plugs to get it started? If so, there is a slight chance (very slight) that you don’t have enough compression to keep it running. This can be tested by hitting the glow plugs right after it starts to see if it will continue to run.

                  Other items are air or fuel. How is the air filter? Try removing the intake hose at the manifold and see if it will run that way. Not likely the problem, but it should be checked anyway.

                  Last is fuel which is more difficult to troubleshoot.  If you found no air while bleeding the system and since it does start, air in the system is probably not the cause.

                  Poor flow rate might be it, so first step would be to check (or just replace) the filters. You can also take the hose off at the sediment bowl and turn the valve on to see if there is proper flow there. If not, clean the sediment bowl and check again. Some units have a screen in the tank that may be plugged.

                  Last thing to look at is the lift pump. If it is not providing enough fuel flow to the injection pump it could cause the symptoms you describe.

                  Start with the simple things first. Check the fuel flows and let us know what you find.

                   

                  in reply to: Agricat (Jinma 300) Won't Crank #46340
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                    An old farmer said when troubleshooting electrical issues the 3 most important things are to:

                    Check your grounds

                    Check your grounds

                    Check your grounds

                    I think he sold real estate on the side. 😉

                    So, check all connections, meaning take them apart and clean them. If all good there, next step is to check the battery.

                    Cheap and easy way is to remove the solar charger and check voltage, it better be above 12, closer to 13 is better.

                    Now with the voltmeter still connected, hit the starter and watch the voltage. If it drops below 10 you have a battery problem. Try jumping with another vehicle.

                    If battery voltage is good, check again with the voltmeter connected at the starter. If OK, time to remove the starter and have a look inside. If voltage drops off at starter but is OK at the battery, you have a cable/connection problem.

                    Let us know what you find.

                     

                    in reply to: Jinma 254 not charging #46333
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                      You have done a very good job investigating and troubleshooting so far. The details of the voltages is the key.

                      In normal operation the voltage regulator  controls the voltage going to the field connection at the alternator. If battery voltage is low (usually less than about 14.5v), the regulator sends battery voltage to the field winding of the alternator (rotor), which causes a voltage output in the stator coil. This is tapped at various locations and rectified through the diodes to put a steady DC voltage out on the Battery connection at the alternator. If this voltage is greater than the battery voltage, it will charge the battery.

                      One way to test an alternator is to “full field” it by temporarily applying battery voltage to the field terminal. This will cause the alternator to go to maximum output (if it is working properly).

                      Since your alternator is getting battery voltage from the regulator, that indicates the regulator is doing its job and that the wiring is sound.

                      Conclusion is that your alternator has failed.

                      I would remove it and take it to an automotive parts store (NAPA, Pep Boys, etc.) and see if they can bench test if for you.

                      If your alternator is bad, you will have a decision or two to make. I am not sure if internal parts are available or not. If not, you will be looking at a replacement of some kind.

                      For me personally when my regulator failed, I replaced the alternator with a re-manufactured Delco 10si model for about $65. I had to do a little re-wiring and make an extension for the adjuster bracket. The Jinma regulator was $30 and some of the wiring was bad anyway.

                      There are pros and cons of doing so, but the results are a better charging system than came from the factory.

                      The Sense wire on my alternator was labeled “I”. It was used to activate the light on the dash which was redundant because my 284 had an ammeter too. The 10si I bought did not have the sense wire output so the light on the dash is non-functioning. If I felt the need a voltmeter could be added easily enough.

                      Let us know if you have any more questions.

                      Stuart

                      in reply to: Foton 40hp not charging #46298
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                        In the case of my Jinma 284, the OEM was not a TEFC unit. In fact it had a fan and airflow identical to the 10Si that replaced it. I went from a 14 amp to a 63 amp alternator.

                        If I did field work or extremely dirty work, that would be a consideration along with probably not having a 284.

                        John’s problem remains, what is causing the alternator to not charge? We know the alternator works when “full fielded”, so for some reason the field circuit is not getting the voltage it needs. It very well could be the regulator but the fact that gauges don’t work may be a clue (or completely unrelated). At least it is “cause to pause” on the condemnation of the regulator.

                        If you have a known good regulator, the test is a simple swap. Bear in mind that new out of the box is no guarantee of a working unit. Known good unit means having proved itself on another tractor.

                        After that, it comes down to tracing the circuits and testing connections/continuity as you go.

                        John, do you have a schematic?

                        Also, just curious, what is the output rating of you alternator?

                        If you have part numbers for the regulator and alternator, please post them. We may be able to scare up some more information for you.

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