smokey44

Another question on the NT 254 hydraulics. Mine has a steel

line pointing to the rear of the machine and dead ends with a

quick-disconnect, apearently to supply hyd. power to pull

type implements and other uses. There is nothing in my

owners manual about this or how it works but I may want to

use it someday. There is no return line like I have seen and

used on other tractors. Is this a power up, gravity down

port, or do I need to install a return line to the tank? Does the

selector knob below the front seat need adjusted to supply

power to this? What lever is used?

Thanks, Smokey

Grumpy, Ron, got fittings today, steering and everything works

now after connecting power beyond to the diverter. I stuck a 

temporary hose from the FEL return port back to the tank to try

things out. I was suprised nothing came out of the hose during

normal loader & 3 point functions until the relief valve kicked

in and bypassed oil when reaching the end of a cylinder. 

The loader is a lot faster now. My adjustable relief valve

cartridge from Cross is back ordered for a couple weeks, so

when I get that I will be ready to rumble.

Thanks for your help guys, you are my hero's.

Smokey

RonJ, sorry but I have not figured out how to print out a full

size copy of your pictures to study, so I will try to bounce back

and forth between your pictures, this post, and my memory.

Presently, I am connected exactly as your pictures with the

following exceptions. My line D, the 3 pt power supply, was

apparently changed to a hose with quick disconnects when

the FEL was installed. I have a power beyond port on the back

side of my FEL control valve, that you do not have pictured.

So, line D out of the diverter valve previously was connected to

the pressure side of the FEL control, and the power beyond

port was connected to line D for power to the 3 point. These

line were all equipped with quick disconnects so when the FEL

was removed from the tractor, line D was coupled to line D

for power to the 3 point. 

I now have the power beyond connected to the 3 point supply

and have nothing connected to line D out of the divert valve.

After sleeping on this overnight, I think I need to connect

line D from divert valve to line D 3 point power supply, and

run the power beyond into a return line.

Your response would be appreciated, Thanks, Smokey

Grumpy, you were right about the power beyond port on the

Cross FEL valve, It needs to be connected. I called Cross Mfg.

today and a gal named Linda verified this. Funny thing, Cross

Mfg is in Lewis, Ks, only 50 miles from me, I am in Dodge

City. She had some good news for me, Cross makes an

adjustable relief valve cartridge that will replace the 1300 psi

relief I have in the SS valve assembly. The part # is 1R0135,

and is adjustable from 1500 to 3000 psi.

I am still waiting on metric fittings, will not be here til next

week.   Smokey

Grumpy, RonJ,

Tore into the project yesterday, had to order a couple of metric 

fittings from local IBT store to tie into Hyd. pump & Div. valve.

Looks like I need to place quick couplers on these hoses in case

I remove the loader from the tractor, so they can be connected

together. It appears I can do away with the power beyond hose

since I have quick couplers between the diverter valve and 3 PT

feed that were previously used with the loader removed.

Is it OK to plug this off on the Cross loader control valve?

Also looks like I can omit the return hose from the FEL valve

to the steel return line on the left side of tractor, since there

is an existing return line from the diverter valve that goes to

the same steel line back to tank. I would like to clean this up

a bit, all these fittings are around the fuel sediment bulb

which makes the bulb almost impossible to remove.

Thanks for your comments. Smokey