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  • in reply to: Nortrac 254, Left Power lift leaking fluid… #49856
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      Is there a time frame to allow these seals to fully ‘seat’?  Should I expect leakeage for awhile or should leakage stop?

      I am on vacation this week.  Will change next week  and then let you know.  Thanks

      in reply to: Nortrac 254, Left Power lift leaking fluid… #49854
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        Is there anything ‘normal’ w/Chinese tractors?  😏😏  Asking for a friend…

        in reply to: Nortrac 254, Left Power lift leaking fluid… #49853
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          Thank you.  One moe seal, one more try.  Will let you know.

          in reply to: Nortrac 254, Left Power lift leaking fluid… #49851
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            My biggest question is which order and which direction does the oil seal and washer go?  I cant’t make it out from the diagram.  Others have told me I must have inserted seal wrong.  So I took it apart agaid and turned everything opposite and still leaks.  Trying to figure it out…

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              more pics

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              in reply to: Nortrac 254, Left Power lift leaking fluid… #49835
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                Sorry for the vagueness of my descriptions…. I will answer your questions in order…

                First of all this problem of leakage is attached to the Hydraulic Power Lift right where it attaches to the Case  Part # 41.  When sitting on the tractor it is the left lift arm assembly…Part # 30.  The lift arm seems in good shape…no play or wobbling. It slides on the fluted or splined end of the shaft easily.

                Your questions:

                Yes–I do mean hydraulic fluid.  I thought everything was hooked into the same reservoir/sump.  Not oil.

                I am not referring to the FEL.  See above.

                I am NOT referring to the power steering hydraulic cylinder.  I am aware where that is located. I have rebuilt one and replaced it new 2nd time.

                I drain the fluid from just under the seat to the left…just above and to the left of the power take off.

                The left hydraulic lift arm assembly (not fork…my mistake.) slides onto the fluted or splined shaft end and butts to the case and is secured with a couple of bolts through a cover plate.  The ‘oil slinger’ washer is inserted first followed by the oil seal with the oil seal inserted with visible springs and other openings sliding onto the shaft toward the inside of the case.  I think they butt up against the bushing.  Picture indicates it as I see it.

                I have pictures to send…

                 

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                in reply to: Nortrac 254 Clutch #49720
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                  Will take that advice.  Thank you.  I know that Circle G also offers a complete clutch assembly.  I will compare prices and let you guys know.  I get most of my parts from Circle G.  I know that Northern Tool sells Nortracs so I am assuming that they may know of service centers close to where I live.  I will let you know how things turned out.

                  Did you ever receive those pictures I sent you?  Were they helpful? If not, no matter now.

                  Thanks again David….appreciate you.

                  in reply to: Nortrac 254 Clutch #49718
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                    David and Piper,

                    My son who is an airline mechanic checked out my tractor today.  He got farther than I did as I didn’t really know what I was looking for and looking at.  He on the other hand has much experience reading ‘cut away’ diagrams and understands the ‘exploded parts view’ schematic also.  After about an hour and some adjustments on the clutch pedal to the very max he figured out that the Main clutch disc assembly  and the main pressure plate were non-functioning as the rivets on the disc were worn to the point that there was no material to ‘grab’ onto the pressure plate.  He got the pedal adjusted as far as it could go and that closed the gap enough for the main pressure plate and the main clutch disc to meet tightly enough to actually move the tractor when we started the engine and put it in gear and let out the clutch.  It actually moved which he said proved his observation that the main clutch disc  assembly is fried, kaput, wobbly, good as dead.  He figures there is probably enough clutch to drive it or back it onto a trailer and get it to a mechanic to have it replaced.

                    The Nortrac 254 is maybe a 20010- 2003 model…I am the 3rd owner so I figure that this would fall on me sometime.  So I am now looking for an garage or mechanic within the Louisville, KY area or Southern Indiana area who works on Chinese tractors and willing to do the clutch replacement.  Any ideas would be appreciated.  I have a transport trailer so I can deliver. Distance isn’t a concern at this point.  I am about equal distance to Indianapolis, Nashville, Cincinatti, St. Louis, Dayton, Ohio, Lexington, Ky.  Surely there would be someone who could help.

                    I want to thank David and Piper for their guidance and expertise in the knowledge and willingness to take the time to share it.  I am sure they have done it a ‘gazillion’ times. I have learned a lot about me tractor.  I’m better for it.

                    in reply to: Nortrac 254 Clutch #49716
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                      Will I see the same thing on the right side as I do on the left if I take off that cover plate?  Is it necessary?  I can see the clutch fine w/left side open.  I can turn the clutch and observe 3 adjusting bolts.  Is that correct?

                      I opened that cover plate to see the clutch and immediately got that ‘smell’ of burning…a lot of black residue laying in there.  But, I don’t know if this is excessive or normal wear…

                      I figured that is not good…but will continue on.  I checked the pedal linkage and didn’t see anything that might have sheared or undue metal wear. I may be looking at the wrong thing. All nuts seem to be tightened and in place.  This all external–correct?

                      Probably a stupid question but….what are you using to determine the correct adjustment?  A feeler gauge?  Where do you get something that is 10mm or 25mm?  And where do I measure from?  The inside of the nut or the end of the plate?  Trying to figure that out.

                      Indications suggest that if you don’t adjust evenly you may run into trouble…’I’m going to see if I can find something on YouTube…I’ll be back…

                      in reply to: Nortrac254…Y385 diesel motor #46902
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                        look in YPs under ‘hydraulic hose shop’…..you can get one replaced there…I found one nearby and it took them 15 minutes to make me a new one

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